, brenda, it can because they're flexing their muscle and have the backing of the current political environment. >> brenda: larry. >> brenda, the younes need to reinvent themselves. if they need to get into my skilled jobs and earn higher wages and that's the key. >> you're right and the ia of organizing the lowest end of the structure here is, as jos says, the average lifetime of employee i think is nine months in the fast food business so it's antithetical and-- >> these aren't coal mines and slaughter houses, brenda, these are folding sweaters at the gap, shiers. >> we need to see more unions in china where they could make a difference, they could lift wages and impro living standards there. >> absolutely. >> and keep chinese, work forces from taking jobs away from america. >> good luck with that. >> brenda: thank you for the debate. and sandy victims facing devastation one month later, so is this any time for the united nations to be using them as a fund raising tool? the cavuto gang is all over that one at the bottom of the hour. hour. up here first, forget fees in this family used capital